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I've mentioned this before, but I joined up for the c-realm vault for #89 in april 2014, after you hinted on the main c-realm at having more thoughts on Michael Ruppert's suicide. I don't know if that one was near the inflection point for your views, but I definitely found it the most powerful.

Some sample quotes from re-listening to that one, especially from listener Frank's email reflecting back what thoughts you were putting out:

- you were raising the alarm that "people were using the collapse narrative to create a death-cult"

- "to what extent is the collapse narrative a projection of peoples' inner demons, working their way into a public spectacle?"

I think personally around that time, I was trying to spread the whitepill of MMT to help people off the ledge of economic/financial doomerism (of the type in the first portion of this vault episode, speaking with ilargi). I mostly missed the peak-oil ecological collapse community at that point, other than keeping tabs on the /r/collapse sub as a tourist. But I definitely had the experience of being tempted into blackpill doomer 'potent cocktail' understanding of the world when dealing with my own lowpoint depression around 2007-2010. And indeed that it fell away again when my own situation turned around.

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I cannot remember exactly how I came to the c-realm. If it was via the ETC podcasts ‘08(?) or Knutstler(when it was still urbanism). I was never a doomer, but enjoyed your variety of voices Doug Lain(diet soap), the Arch Druid, Ayahuasca etc. z-realm too! Always memorable engaging conversations. And topics I might not have considered.

Your deep dive into AI sometimes is more than I can track week to week. Still it is my source of trying to comprehend the technology and potential.

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